It’s Not What You Think
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Cate Gilpin: When OCD creeps into your career
October 25, 2026 · 47 minWe know that OCD can affect every part of our lives, and unfortunately our careers can often be in the firing line of this difficult disorder. In this episode, Penny and Angie talk to writer, consultant and mother of two, Cate Gilpin…
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Henry Bretz: Finding the funny in OCD
October 18, 2026 · 51 minWe’re back with Season 4 of It’s Not What You Think! In this episode, Penny and Angie talk to comedian and radio host, Henry Bretz about his experience with OCD. You might know Henry for going viral for his satirical videos pretending to…
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Group Chat: Has the stigma around OCD actually decreased?
July 26, 2026 · 40 minFor the last episode of season 3, Penny and Ange are joined by Alison Cosker. Together they discuss: What’s next for the podcast Why they decided to run an event in Melbourne and what happened when they did Whether they think stigma…
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Nathan Dowling: The Bergen 4 Day Treatment (B4DT)
July 19, 2026 · 40 minThere is a real buzz surrounding a treatment method originating in Norway. Clinical Psychologist and Founder of Melbourne Mindcare, Nathan Dowling joins Penny and Angie to talk about this intensive but gentle method, which is now being…
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Dr Leila Masson: What parents must know about PANS/PANDAS
July 12, 2026 · 49 minPaediatrician Dr Leila Masson joins Penny and Angie to talk about PANS/PANDAS, a medical condition in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks brain cells and can lead to sudden, severe symptoms of OCD. Doctors often mistake…
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Jo Gray: 'Living Proof' that you can get on top of your OCD
July 5, 2026 · 52 minA few years ago, Jo’s OCD was so crippling that she needed to be hospitalised and completed two stints at The Melbourne Clinic. OCD had completely taken over her life in every way. Jo joins Penny and Angie for a beautiful conversation…
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Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out
June 28, 2026 · 59 minTess very generously talks to Penny and Angie about: when her hair pulling symptoms began her religious upbringing and the intense feelings of shame and perfectionism the various treatments she’s tried in order to stop pulling out her…
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Gryff Connah: Taboo OCD and saying the quiet parts out loud
June 21, 2026 · 42 minIn this episode Penny and Ange are joined by young emerging performer and theatre-maker, Gryff Connah. He talks to them about how intrusive thoughts and compulsions have woven their way throughout his life and how his dad helped him to…
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Group Chat: Parenting with OCD
June 14, 2026 · 31 minDo you find it tough to parent whilst drowning in OCD overwhelm? Well, Penny and Ange do, so they sat down for a candid chat about it. They talk about their own experiences as parents to young kids and read out anonymous comments that…
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Emily Ferretti: Magical Thinking OCD
June 7, 2026 · 47 minPenny talks to acclaimed contemporary painter, Emily Ferretti about her experience with magical thinking OCD. Em talks so generously about: - Some of her early OCD symptoms that arose when she was at primary school - Seeing a counsellor…
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Dr Andrea Wallace: All about EMDR
May 24, 2026 · 45 minAlison steps in for Angie today and joins Penny in welcoming back Dr Andrea Wallace to discuss EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing). EMDR is an evidence-backed therapy that uses bilateral stimulation (for example side to…
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Chris Walker: When childhood trauma meets OCD
May 17, 2026 · 46 minLeading Australian TV producer, Chris Walker talks to Penny and Angie about the devastating intersection of OCD and childhood trauma. When Chris was a young kid he witnessed a devastating event which left him and his family reeling. A few…

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