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The Not So Breakfast Show

by Sacha and Ish

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  • The Barcelona comedown - behind the scenes of how we did it

    October 25, 2026 · 32 min

    Say Hello Episode 278 Fresh from Barcelona, Ish and Sacha take us behind the scenes of their recent Les Mills International conference sessions, unpacking how they shaped the presentations into an experience that had people laughing…

  • The Barcelona Primer

    October 4, 2026 · 19 min

    Say Hello Episode 277 This episode is a behind-the-scenes primer for the Les Mills United summit in Barcelona.  Ish and Sacha share how their own Les Mills journeys started in some fairly unlikely places, what they’ll be talking about when…

  • High Performance, Bad Behaviour: Where Do You Draw the Line?

    September 27, 2026 · 18 min

    Say Hello Episode 276 What do you do when someone is smashing every target… while making everyone around them quietly consider a career change? This week, Ish and Sacha get into the awkward world of difficult high performers: the rock…

  • AI Was Supposed to Save Us Time. So Where Did It Go?

    September 20, 2026 · 23 min

    Say Hello Episode 275 Ish and Sacha dig into the slightly uncomfortable reality of AI and productivity: technology keeps promising to save us time, but humans are remarkably talented at immediately filling that time with more stuff. From…

  • What Ted Lasso Gets Right About Leadership

    September 13, 2026 · 23 min

    Say Hello Episode 274 What do Ted Lasso, Korean skincare, a runaway car and being unexpectedly told you’re “foxy” have in common? More than you’d think, apparently. After Ish narrowly avoids watching his car disappear backwards down his…

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  • Do You Really Need to Find Your Why?

    September 6, 2026 · 29 min

    Say Hello Episode 273 Do you know your why? Your purpose? The deep, meaningful reason you leap out of bed every morning ready to change the world? No? Excellent. You may be absolutely fine. This week, Sacha takes aim at Simon Sinek and the…

  • Why Smart People Still Make Dumb Decisions

    August 30, 2026 · 26 min

    Say Hello Episode 272 What happens when being “the smart one” becomes part of your identity? Apparently, you get very good at constructing brilliant arguments for ideas that may still be completely terrible. This week, Ish and Sacha get…

  • Critical Ignoring: The Skill Your Attention Is Begging For

    August 23, 2026 · 26 min

    Say Hello Episode 271Ish arrives with a voice that sounds like it’s been dragged through gravel, but fortunately it’s not illness; it’s karaoke. Ten songs, a bit of Blues Brothers, and a final assault on Sweet Child O’ Mine will apparently…

  • Congratulations, You’re the Manager. Sorry About Your Life.

    August 16, 2026 · 21 min

    Say Hello Episode 270 This episode is about one of the most common promotion traps at work: taking the person who is brilliant at doing the job and assuming they’ll naturally be brilliant at leading everyone else who does it. Ish and…

  • Are You in a Work Situationship?

    August 9, 2026 · 18 min

    Say Hello Episode 269 Some people stay in a job for years. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re committed. They might just be comfortable, financially trapped, quietly checking Seek at lunchtime, or waiting for someone else to make the…

  • Five Things Every Leader Should Know About Their Team

    August 2, 2026 · 19 min

    Say Hello Episode 268 In this episode, Ish and Sacha explore five things every leader should know about the people in their team, beyond names, roles and coffee orders. They unpack why motivation is never one-size-fits-all, how leaders can…

  • Excellence Should Create Growth, Not Entrapment

    July 26, 2026 · 27 min

    Say Hello Episode 267 Being good at your job is meant to be a good thing. Until everyone notices, starts sending everything your way, and your reward for being reliable is a to-do list that now requires its own project manager. In this…

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About the show

Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.