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The Swim Brief

by Chris DeSantis
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  • You Can't Fix Confidence At Championships: Jack Brown

    October 19, 2026 · 1 hr 14 min

    Send us Fan Mail You can’t wait until championships to teach swimmers how to handle championships. Wisconsin head coach Dr. Jack Brown joins Chris DeSantis to discuss why mental skills deserve the same deliberate practice as physical ones…

  • Milo Cavic Wouldn't Like His Younger Self

    October 12, 2026 · 50 min

    Send us Fan Mail Milo Cavic looks back at his younger self and sees an athlete he wouldn’t necessarily enjoy coaching: self-centered, fiercely invested in success, and determined to learn things the hard way. The Olympic medalist joins…

  • The Coaching Culture That Pushes Parents Out: Tracy Slusser

    October 5, 2026 · 57 min

    Send us Fan Mail Tracy Slusser has coached three NCAA championship teams. She has also experienced a coaching culture that made having children feel incompatible with doing the job at the highest level. We talk about the expectations she…

  • Don't Finish The Athlete

    September 28, 2026 · 47 min

    Send us Fan Mail What is a developmental coach actually trying to finish? Longhorn Aquatics head coach Mike Laitala joins Chris DeSantis to discuss why producing fast young swimmers is not the same as preparing athletes for long-term…

  • Wisdom Isn’t Taught. It’s Revealed

    September 21, 2026 · 55 min

    Send us Fan Mail Jack Roach has spent a lifetime learning from coaches—and helping coaches and athletes learn from one another. In this conversation, Jack reflects on his time leading USA Swimming’s National Junior Team, where he helped…

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  • Building Swimmers Who Want To Be There: Jonathan Kaplan

    September 14, 2026 · 55 min

    Send us Fan Mail What makes swimmers want to keep showing up—not because an attendance policy requires it, but because they genuinely want to be there? Jonathan Kaplan, head coach and director of SwimRVA, joins Chris to discuss a…

  • Building Culture in College Swimming’s Transactional Era

    September 7, 2026 · 49 min

    Send us Fan Mail What does it take to build a championship-level program without allowing college swimming to become purely transactional? Stanford men’s swimming head coach Dan Schemmel joins Chris DeSantis to discuss his unlikely path…

  • Building Women's Sports Differently: Ted Lasso Season 4

    September 4, 2026 · 50 min

    Send us Fan Mail Ted Lasso returns with a new challenge: building a women’s team inside a sporting structure created for men. Chris DeSantis and Juliet Suess discuss what the opening episodes of season four reveal about coaching…

  • Why Swimmers Aren’t Eating Enough | Alicia Glass

    August 31, 2026 · 53 min

    Send us Fan Mail Swimmers spend hours in the pool, yet many still aren’t eating enough to support the work they’re doing. Alicia Glass, Sport Dietitian for USA Swimming, joins to explain why swimmers need to think more like endurance…

  • To Save Swimming, Start With the Coaches | Doug Cornish

    August 24, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min

    Send us Fan Mail Swimming has spent decades asking coaches to become more professional. But has the profession done enough to support them in return? Doug Cornish is a former swim coach, financial planner, and the creator of the 2025 Swim…

  • The Making of a Head Coach | Margo Geer

    August 17, 2026 · 51 min

    Send us Fan Mail Margo Geer’s path to becoming the head coach at the University of Alabama was anything but conventional. When she took over the program at 28, plenty of people questioned whether she was ready. Six years later, Margo joins…

  • Reflecting on 50 Years of Coaching | Don Wagner

    August 10, 2026 · 49 min

    Send us Fan Mail Don Wagner spent more than fifty years coaching swimmers at every level of the sport—from developing young athletes to coaching Olympic champion Janet Evans during the most dominant stretch of her career. In this…

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About the show

A swimming podcast featuring natural conversations about the sport. Chris DeSantis brings the poolside conversation to the podcast form.