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Bankrupt and in the Hall of Fame the Same Year: How Leaders Climb Out of Crisis, with Jess Pettitt
October 18, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min"The same year that I filed bankruptcy, I was inducted into the Hall of Fame." Jess Pettitt On Inauguration Day, my friend Jess Pettitt lost her largest contract. Not because of anything she did. The entire office she worked with was…
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Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations: Jess Pettitt Interviews Me About Mismatch
October 11, 2026 · 48 minPreorder Mismatch (out October 27, 2026): https://caitdonovan.com/mismatch "I just, for the first time, realized that I'm not actually in a toxic workplace. I'm just in a bad match." From an email a coaching client sent me. For almost…
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Your Team Already Knows You're Burnt Out: Leadership, Capacity and the Busy Badge, with Anton Gunn
October 4, 2026 · 53 minYour team already knows you're burnt out. Anton Gunn said it out loud on one of his leadership lives, and I almost drove off the road: "Leaders, your team knows you're burnt out, so here's what we're going to do about it." In this episode…
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Burnout Is Not Your Fault, It's a Mismatch: An Early Look at My New Book, a #straightfromcait episode
September 27, 2026 · 14 minFRIED Fam, One month before Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations lands, I got the email I was most nervous to open. A beta reader who has read a mountain of burnout books, and admits her honest reaction to most of them…
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Former SWAT Negotiator: The Workplace Mental Health Lie Nobody Tells You | Jessi Beyer
September 20, 2026 · 54 minFRIED Fam, Your company cares about mental health. There is a flyer in the break room, a pizza party in September, and an EAP number nobody calls. And people are still quietly drowning at their desks. This week I sit down with Jessi Beyer…
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Can You Burn Out in a Good Workplace? a #straightfromcait episode
September 13, 2026 · 8 minBurnout does not require a toxic workplace. For years, the burnout conversation has had a tendency to point fingers in one of two directions. Organizations tell employees they need to become more resilient. Burnt-out employees point back…
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How a Leader’s Ego Can Burn Out Their Team with Ewa Błaszczak
September 6, 2026 · 55 minWhat happens when a leader's ego is running the show without them even realizing it? In this episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast, I'm joined by my longtime friend, leadership expert, and author Ewa Błaszczak to talk about her new book…
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What Employee Engagement Surveys Really Tell You a #straightfromcait episode
August 30, 2026 · 10 minEmployee engagement surveys give us a lot of data. But what does that data actually tell us? In this first Survey Says episode, I’m looking at two questions from the 2024 U.S. Office of Personnel Management Federal Employee Viewpoint…
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CEO Burnout: Why a Great Leader Was Burning Out in a Healthy Organization, a #straightfromcait episode
August 23, 2026 · 7 minI worked with a CEO who was burning out, but here's what made the situation interesting: they were really good at their job. They had a supportive board. They had a supportive staff. The rest of the organization wasn't burning out. So what…
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The $322 Billion Business Case for Employee Wellbeing, with Bhushan Sethi
August 16, 2026 · 46 minThis episode is a reminder that there are people fighting for human leadership, inclusivity, responsible AI and more as we move into the future of work. FRIED Fam, In June of this year, I got to work with one of my very favorite clients…
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What is Emotional Intelligence? a #straightfromcait episode
August 9, 2026 · 13 minWhat is emotional intelligence? Cait breaks down what emotional intelligence actually means, tracing the term back to its 1990 origins and Daniel Goleman's four domain model: self-awareness, self-management, social awareness, and…
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Belief Leadership Starts with Knowing Inner Propaganda with Owen Fitzpatrick
August 2, 2026 · 59 minWhat if the exhausting voice in your head isn't your inner critic but something closer to an inner dictator, running a full scale propaganda campaign to keep you safe instead of happy? Repeat guest Owen Fitzpatrick, social psychologist and…

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