Religion & Spirituality

What's This Tao All About?

by Tod Perry

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Show 109 — Natural Balance and the Tao of Dr. Totton

September 29, 2026

In this episode, Tod and George unpack Derek Lin’s thoughts on natural balance, explore the concept of “pro-anoia” (the antidote to paranoia), and delve into the philosophical writings of Dr. Carl Totton that he claims could be a successor…
Show 108 — The Breath and Time to Change

September 7, 2026

George shares how to relax your nervous system through breathing, including his “LSD through the nose” technique. They also review Derek Lin’s “Best Time to Learn” and the parable of the Mexican Fisherman.
Show 107 — Original Tao and Chuang Tzu on Winning

August 10, 2026

Tod recently read “The Original Tao” (aka the Nei-Yeh), a Taoist work likely written before the Tao Te Ching, and he shares its central theme. Also, George shares the concept of response-ability, and the two review Chuang Tzu’s thoughts on…
Show 106 — Overcoming Contentiousness

March 16, 2026

Tod and George examine the works of Derek Lin and Chuang Tzu to discuss how to live with less contention and greater harmony. George also shares the power of the “sacred” pause, and Tod explains why balancing your internal checkbook can…
Show 105 — Li, Listener Mail, Hundun

February 16, 2026

Tod and George explore the concept of li, or the natural energy patterns inherent in all of us. They also help a listener with love problems and examine Chuang Tzu’s tragedy of Hundun, the faceless but benevolent emperor. Pick up a copy of…

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Show 104 — Wu-Chi and Chuang Tzu’s Metamorphosis

January 26, 2026

Tod shares how Jason Gregory’s “The Tradition of Natural Taoism” aims to correct some Western interpretations of the Tao. Also, George explains the mysterious emptiness of wu-chi and the pair dive deep into one of Chuang Tzu’s strangest…
Show 103 — How to Be Kind to Yourself

November 5, 2025

Tod took a trip to Cuba and felt an incredible joy getting away from technology and consumer culture for a few days. George shares tips on being kind to yourself and building space around your personal challenges to put them in proper…
Show 102 — Lu Dong Pin’s Dream and the Tower of Spirit

October 14, 2025

Tod interviewed Deepak Chopra for a work assignment and asked for his thoughts on Taoism. Later, Tod and George also explore Lu Dong Pin’s dream, which led him to reject worldly power for the Tao, and Chuang Tzu’s “Tower of Spirit,” a…
Show 101 — Dr. Totton’s passing, Chuang Tzu’s Active Life, and Listener Mail

September 18, 2025

After nearly two years in hospice care, Dr. Totton has passed away, Tod discusses the aftermath. Later, George talks about how improv classes have helped his Tao cultivation and they dive deep into Chuang Tzu’s chapter on the “Active…
Show 100 — The Unseen and Detachment

July 17, 2025

Tod and George dig deep into the writings of Derek Lin to discuss how to interact with the unseen and the power of detachment. Later, they discuss relationships and Chuang Tzu’s “Man of Character.” GoFundMe: Care for Dr. Carl Totton in His…
Show 99 — Faith and Chuang Tzu’s Monkeys

June 26, 2025

George and Tod contemplate the age-old debate about whether all spiritual practices lead down the same path. Later, they examine the role that faith plays in Taoism and examine the wisdom of Chuang Tzu’s monkeys. GoFundMe: Care for Dr…
Show 98 — Mirror Mind and Intuitive Wisdom

June 5, 2025

Tod and George examine the mysterious concept of the “mirror mind” and how it can help you live in the present moment, and how to make decisions by getting in touch with our intuitive wisdom. Later, they dig into Chuang Tzu’s chapter on…