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The Underground

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  • Michael Perry on Gardeners’ World, AI and the Future of Garden Retail

    September 16, 2026 · 45 min

    Whenever Michael Perry joins The Underground, the conversation is unlikely to follow a predictable path.Recorded at Glee 2026, this relaxed and wide-ranging chat sees Michael join Phil Wright and Kate Turner to discuss what could come next…

  • Houseplants, Chelsea and Knowing Your Worth, with Gemma Haigh

    September 1, 2026 · 50 min

    Gemma Haigh’s route into horticulture hasn’t exactly been conventional. After starting her career in museums and heritage, she turned a lifelong love of plants into The Plant Parlour, working across houseplants, content creation, design…

  • How to Survive Glee: The Garden Industry’s Best Tips

    August 17, 2026 · 37 min

    Glee is one of the biggest dates in the garden industry calendar. It’s also three very long days of walking, talking, networking, discovering new products and trying to remember who said what by the time you get home.So, ahead of Glee…

  • The Future of the Garden Industry: One Year On

    August 11, 2026 · 31 min

    With Glee just a month away, we’re heading back to Birmingham, as well as the conversations we recorded there last year.At Glee 2025, we asked every guest who joined us one simple question:What’s one change you’d love to see in the garden…

  • Plants, People and the Growth of Perrywood Garden Centres

    August 4, 2026 · 34 min

    From a four-acre smallholding growing strawberries and potatoes to three award-winning garden centres, Perrywood’s story is one of family, plants and steady growth.In this episode, Phil and Kate talk to Hannah Powell, HR and Communications…

  • How People Choose: Emotion, Strategy and Creative Marketing with Phil Wright

    July 27, 2026 · 48 min

    This week, the tables are turned as Kate interviews The Underground co-host Phil Wright, co-founder of creative marketing agency WrightObara.Phil recently wrote an in-depth article exploring how people choose one product over another. In…

  • From Dig for Victory to AI: How Gardening Is Changing with Ross Pearson

    July 21, 2026 · 52 min

    Garden writer and horticultural lecturer Ross Pearson joins Phil and Kate to talk about his ambitious Dig for Victory allotment project and what wartime growing advice can still teach gardeners today. Ross has set out to grow food using…

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About the show

Exploring the future of garden care. The underground podcast is a place where the disparate worlds of horticulture and marketing collide. Kate Turner, the Gardener Guru and Phil Wright, co-founder of creative agency WrightObara, team up to discover the trailblazers and innovators shaping the future of garden care in the UK. With content that’s as relevant to start-ups as it would be to established players, we look to cover the hottest topics and trends you need to know. From plants to products, environmental concerns to legislation, we’ll dig deep to bring you the inside story.