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by Sezer and Julie

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Beyond the Human: New Materialisms and Systemic Psychotherapy with Christopher Loh and Federico Albertini

October 23, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min

What shapes our experience of therapy beyond the words we speak? How might the physical environment, our bodies and the objects around us influence what becomes possible in a therapeutic encounter? In this episode of The Systemic Way, we…
Being a Family Therapist (in session) - The Emotional Life of the Therapist - With Peter Rober

October 12, 2026 · 1 hr 57 min

In this episode of The Systemic Way, we welcome back Professor Peter Rober to discuss his book Becoming an Effective Family Therapist, focusing on the emotional life of the therapist. Peter explores how our feelings in the therapy room can…
"Oughtism" - Rethinking Autism, Diagnosis, & Systemic Responses in Practice

September 27, 2026 · 58 min

In this episode of The Systemic Way, we are joined by Dr Mairi Evans, Systemic Therapist, Social Worker and Clinical Director in the NHS, to explore autism, neurodivergence and the stories that shape how people are understood within…
The Story Lived and Told: Abbie VanMeter on her Journey to CMM

September 16, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min

What happens when we stop asking, “Who is right?” and start asking, “What are we making here?” In this episode of The Systemic Way, we are joined by Abbie VanMeter from the CMM Institute and host of the wonderful podcast Stories Lived and…
Neo-Liberalism, Mental Health and Resistance Within The Systems We Live In: In conversation with Mark Phillips

August 28, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min

What happens when the systems designed to help us start shaping, limiting or even defining the problems we are trying to solve? In this episode of The Systemic Way, we are joined by Mark Phillips, a highly experienced systemic…

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Team Of Life - The Collective Power of Narrative Therapy: With Vicky Eames and Mariangels Ferrer-Duch

August 9, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min

Who are the people, past and present, who have helped you become who you are? In this episode of The Systemic Way, we explore Team of Life, a creative narrative practice developed from the Tree of Life approach. We speak with Mariangels…
Five Dimensions of Change: Relational-Mindfulness, Mantra and Meaning - A Buddhist-Systemic Approach with Kunsang Yang Yang

July 27, 2026 · 1 hr 26 min

Join us for a thought-provoking episode as we sit down with Kunsang Yang Yang , a pioneering voice in the integration of Buddhist philosophy and systemic family therapy. Drawing from years of personal spiritual practice, professional…
From Bateson and Blake to Hugh Palmer: Fourfold Vision and the Art of Seeing Systemically

July 11, 2026 · 1 hr 27 min

What does it mean to truly see in therapy? Not just to recognise a problem or follow a model, but to sense the subtle movements of relationship — the flicker of meaning between people, the quiet shifts that change the course of a…
Families at the Heart of Education: The Pears Family School How systemic practice in specialist provision creates lasting change: With Laura Lower and Maya Bell Kohli

June 7, 2026 · 1 hr 19 min

In this episode, we shine a spotlight on the Pears Family School, a pioneering Alternative Provision school in the UK that is redefining how we support children with complex emotional, behavioral, and mental health needs. Facing a national…
Reflexive Inquiry and Meaning-Making in Organisations: In conversation with Christine Oliver

May 17, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min

In this episode, we are joined by pioneering systemic psychotherapist, organisational consultant, and author Christine Oliver for a rich conversation exploring systemic approaches to organisational life, leadership, and change. Drawing…
From Modalities to Relational Meaning: A Systemic Turn in Integrative Counselling - With Rick Murphy and Lisa Dvorjetz.

April 26, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min

In this episode of The Systemic Way, we speak with Rick Murphy and Lisa Dvorjetz about their book A Systemic Approach to Integrative Counselling (2024) and the growing need to bring relational thinking into everyday therapeutic…
Inside EFTA-RELATES 2025: Challenging Indifference, Creating Connection, Shaping the Future of the Systemic Field

March 27, 2026 · 1 hr 33 min

Celebrating our 100th episode of The Systemic Way Podcast. We took The Systemic Way to @EFTA-RELATES 2025 Congress in Lyon and stepped into a space shaped by change, tension, and possibility. Across four days, we spoke with therapists…

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About the show

The Systemic Way Podcast is a therapy and mental health podcast featuring conversations with experts, practitioners, researchers, and people with lived experience from the worlds of systemic psychotherapy, family therapy, psychology, social work, and community practice. Hosted by Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, the podcast explores mental health, relationships, trauma, resilience, social justice, culture, and change. Through engaging discussions on theory, practice, and real-world experiences, listeners gain a deeper understanding of how systemic and relational approaches can support individuals, families, organisations, and communities. Artwork by Arai Drake Creative: http://www.araidrake.com/portfolio/thesystemicway Music by Rena Paid