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The Swiftie and The Scholar
by Angela McDow | Dr. Jerry Coats
Today: #103 in Music on our combined chart.
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| Date | Apple Podcasts |
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| Oct 1 | #79 |
About the show
A weekly podcast exploring the lyrics, lore, and literary legacy of Taylor Swift. Hosted by Angela McDow, the Swiftie, and Dr. Jerry Coats, the Scholar, we read between the lines AND the liner notes. Join us each week for lyrical deep dive through Taylor Swift's eras.
Latest episodes
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The Despair and Persistence of This is Me Trying
October 1, 2026 · 1 hr 9 minWe’ve made it to the end of the folklore road! Join Uncle Jerry and Angela as they discuss this is me trying, where the duo finds some Typical Taylor, ambiguity, paradox, multiple meanings, and so much more. Come back for the next two…
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The Secretive Destruction of Illicit Affairs
September 24, 2026 · 1 hr 14 minToday we’re covering our penultimate folklore poem with Illicit Affairs. Uncle Jerry finds this song fits perfectly within the category of folklore, and shows us just how Taylor Swift’s use of language showcases the lack of love in this…
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The Paradox and Parallelism of Peace
September 17, 2026 · 58 minDid we finally find Uncle Jerry’s least favorite folklore poem? And maybe Angela’s too? In this episode, we dissect Peace from Taylor Swift’s 2020 album, and Uncle Jerry finds many paradoxes and double meanings, while struggling to find a…
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Time’s Mystic Meandering in Invisible String
September 10, 2026 · 1 hr 51 minBuckle up, folks. This is a long one! Invisible String is up next in our folklore canon, and Uncle Jerry showed up PREPARED. He and Angela chat through folktales about the red thread, handfasting ceremonies, and more before diving into the…
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The Lives We Didn’t Live in The 1
September 3, 2026 · 1 hr 22 minWe have the opening track of folklore for you today! Uncle Jerry and Angela discuss the relatable way Taylor Swift writes about the ruminations about the different lives we never got to live during this discussion of The 1. *Links with…
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The Devastating Paradox of Hoax
August 27, 2026 · 1 hr 19 minIn this episode, we are covering Hoax, the closing track from 2020’s folklore. Uncle Jerry starts out a bit iffy on his feelings about the poem, but talking through it with Angela helps him find extra meaning. *Links with an asterisk are…
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The Tragedy of Miscommunication in Exile
August 20, 2026 · 1 hr 19 minContinuing along our folklore journey, this episode covers exile, the collaboration between Taylor Swift and Bon Iver. Uncle Jerry teaches us about different types of exile and how they appear across literature and folk tales. We then dig…
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Finding Life’s Meaning in Epiphany
August 13, 2026 · 1 hr 3 minWe are tackling one of the most underrated tracks from Taylor Swift’s folklore album, epiphany. The poem compares past war tragedies to 2020’s pandemic, and Uncle Jerry uses the poem to teach us about Hemingway’s Iceberg Theory. *Links…