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The Law, such as it is

by Lawrence Lessig
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About the show

An exploration of a broken, if beautiful, institution, the law, and tradition, America. Season one told the story of a case, LESSIG v. NYT. Season two begins the story about a country, America, and values that country has betrayed.

Latest episodes

  • Bonus episode: NotebookLM's summary of the case (Corrected)

    May 22, 2026 · 44 min

    In this episode, we share a podcast create by NotebookLM based on the transcripts from the 9 episodes of the podcast. It is a powerful summary of the case, which is a great introduction to the issues presented across the episodes.

  • The Closing Argument

    May 6, 2026 · 1 hr 52 min

    In this final episode, Lessig pulls together the argument from across the season. Why did this happen? What should happen next?

  • Unpacking the final allegation — "Allegation 1"

    April 17, 2026 · 47 min

    Allegation 1 is the only allegation within the 6 year limit for fraud investigation. In this episode, we show why it too fails — and the astonishing failure in the investigation that could have shown precisely what had happened.

  • Unpacking "Allegation 3"

    April 15, 2026 · 49 min

    In this episode, we review Allegation 3, and reveal the simple omission that undermined the investigation into this allegation.

  • Dismantling "Allegation 4"

    January 30, 2026 · 59 min

    We continue in this episode by unpacking the charges behind allegation number 4, which involved a paper written 15 years ago.

  • Allegation 2, continued

    December 1, 2025 · 9 min

    Clarifying one additional point about Allegation 2 in less than ten minutes.

  • Dismantling "Allegation 2"

    November 17, 2025 · 59 min

    So far, this podcast has considered the procedural flaws that marred the process that led to Francesca Gino's tenure being revoked. With this episode, we begin dismantling the substantive conclusions as they relate to the four alleged…

  • How you know when a process has too many lawyers

    September 18, 2025 · 1 hr 18 min

    In this second of two episodes interviewing Francesca, we cover the period from HBS' determination that she had committed academic misconduct through the University's decision to revoke her tenure.