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The Law, such as it is

by Lawrence Lessig
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    In this episode, we share a podcast create by NotebookLM based on the transcripts from the 9 episodes of the podcast. It is a powerful summary of the case, which is a great introduction to the issues presented across the episodes.

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    May 6, 2026 · 1 hr 52 min

    In this final episode, Lessig pulls together the argument from across the season. Why did this happen? What should happen next?

  • Unpacking the final allegation — "Allegation 1"

    April 17, 2026 · 47 min

    Allegation 1 is the only allegation within the 6 year limit for fraud investigation. In this episode, we show why it too fails — and the astonishing failure in the investigation that could have shown precisely what had happened.

  • Unpacking "Allegation 3"

    April 15, 2026 · 49 min

    In this episode, we review Allegation 3, and reveal the simple omission that undermined the investigation into this allegation.

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    January 30, 2026 · 59 min

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    Clarifying one additional point about Allegation 2 in less than ten minutes.

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    September 18, 2025 · 1 hr 18 min

    In this second of two episodes interviewing Francesca, we cover the period from HBS' determination that she had committed academic misconduct through the University's decision to revoke her tenure.

  • How You Know a Business School is Not a Law School

    August 21, 2025 · 1 hr 53 min

    In this first of two episodes interviewing Francesca, we cover a bit about the nature of her work, and then the period beginning from the charges being raised against her through the business school's determination that she had committed…

  • Introduction

    August 21, 2025 · 24 min

    Francesca Gino was a superstar at the Harvard Business School. This year, she was fired for academic misconduct. In this season, we'll explore that story through interviews with Francesca and others. This episode introduces the story and…

  • Episode 2 - Edward Snowden

    August 26, 2021 · 1 hr 48 min

    A discussion with Edward Snowden about his new book, Permanent Record. In 2013, Snowden revealed to the world the extent of the US government's mass surveillance program. This book tells the story of Snowden's life and the decision to…

  • Episode 1 - Andrew Bacevich

    August 19, 2021 · 1 hr 7 min

    A discussion with Andrew Bacevich about his new book, After the Apocolypse. Bacevich is America's most thoughtful conservative skeptic about the scope of America's military empire, and the urgent need to redirect our focus. #Empire America

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About the show

An exploration of a broken, if beautiful, institution, the law, and tradition, America. Season one told the story of a case, LESSIG v. NYT. Season two begins the story about a country, America, and values that country has betrayed.