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The IT/OT Insider Podcast with David and Willem

by By David Ariens and Willem van Lammeren

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About the show

How can we really digitalize our Industry? Join us as we navigate through the innovations and challenges shaping the future of manufacturing and critical infrastructure. From insightful interviews with industry leaders to deep dives into transformative technologies, this podcast is your guide to understanding the digital revolution at the heart of the physical world. We talk about IT/OT Convergence and focus on People & Culture, not on the Buzzwords. To support the transformation, we discover which Technologies (AI! Cloud! IIoT!) can enable this transition. itotinsider.substack.com