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The CLO Investor Podcast

by Shiloh Bates
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    October 21, 2026 · 43 min

    On this episode of the CLO Investor Podcast, Shiloh Bates sits down with Mike Harmon, author of The Financial Restructuring Tool Set: How to Fix Your Broken Balance Sheet. Mike teaches financial restructuring at Stanford and spent 21 years…

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    October 9, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min

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  • #40 Part 2, Chris Gilbert, Co-Head of Securitized Products, Natixis

    September 17, 2026 · 33 min

    This episode is part two of Shiloh Bates' conversation with Chris Gilbert, Co-head of the Securitized Products Group at Natixis. Where the first part covered CLO debt ratings, this episode digs into CLO refinancings and resets — comparing…

  • #39 Part 1, Chris Gilbert, Co-Head of Securitized Products, Natixis

    September 3, 2026 · 49 min

    In this episode of the CLO Investor Podcast, Shiloh Bates sits down with Chris Gilbert, Co-Head of Securitized Products at Natixis, to explore how CLO debt tranches are rated and examine proposed methodology changes from Fitch and Moody's…

  • #38, Sam Garza, Portfolio Manager, DoubleLine

    August 12, 2026 · 44 min

    In this episode of the CLO Investor Podcast, Shiloh Bates sits down with Sam Garza, Portfolio Manager at DoubleLine, to discuss the evolving CLO market. They explore why CLO debt continues to offer attractive relative value, the challenges…

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  • #37, David Altenhofen, Head of Credit Management, Accunia Credit Management

    July 7, 2026 · 44 min

    David Altenhofen, Head of Credit Management at Accunia Credit Management, joins The CLO Investor podcast to compare the US and European CLO markets, digging into topics like manager selection and alpha, CLO equity's recent struggles…

  • #36, Laila Kollmorgen, Global Head of CLO Tranche Investing, MetLife Investment Management

    June 23, 2026 · 44 min

    Laila Kollmorgen, Global Head of CLO Tranche Investing at MetLife Investment Management, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss her investment approach across the CLO capital structure and the products her team manages. Laila shares why…

  • #35, Cyrus Moshiri, Head of Structured Credit, New Mountain Capital

    May 15, 2026 · 39 min

    Cyrus Moshiri, Head of Structured Credit at New Mountain Capital, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss how New Mountain is differentiated from other private credit businesses, if private credit is as attractive as it used to be, the…

  • #34, Chris York, Partner, SLR Capital

    April 27, 2026 · 48 min

    Chris York, Partner at SLR Capital, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss the evolving landscape for BDCs and private credit, including public BDC discounts, software loan risk, tender activity, and where risk‑adjusted opportunities…

  • #33, Drew Sweeney, Co-Head of Global Credit, TCW

    March 30, 2026 · 47 min

    Drew Sweeney, Co-Head of Global Credit of TCW, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss loans to software businesses at a time when AI-displacement risk is elevated. We discuss the question of if declining software valuations and cash…

  • #32, John Kim, CEO and Co-Founder, Reckoner Capital

    March 6, 2026 · 43 min

    John Kim, CEO and Co-Founder of Reckoner Capital, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss the launch of innovative CLO ETFs, including leveraged and reinvesting structures. The conversation also covers broader trends in the CLO market…

  • #31, Serhan Secman, Global Head of CLOs, Napier Park

    February 20, 2026 · 53 min

    Serhan Secman, Global Head of CLOs at Napier Park, joins The CLO Investor podcast to discuss the CLO investing business, inefficiencies in the market and the three factors that negatively effected CLO equity in 2025.

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About the show

The CLO Investor Podcast with Shiloh Bates features an in-depth look at the Collateralized Loan Obligation market. Shiloh Bates is the Chief Investment Officer at Flat Rock Global, and author of CLO Investing with an Emphasis on CLO Equity and BB Notes. He reviews relevant topics in the CLO industry and interviews key market players. Learn more about Flat Rock Global at FlatRockGlobal.com.