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Motivational Interviewing & Beyond

by Joel Porter & Steve Rollnick

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Latest episodes

The Craft of Motivational Interviewing

September 23, 2025 · 1 hr 30 min

This episode of MIB explores MI as a craft, moving beyond a set of skills to a nuanced conversational art form. We aim to explore what it takes to become a practitioner focusing on the intuitive, adaptive and deeply personal aspects of…
The International Motivational Interviewing Summit: Debrief

July 27, 2025 · 1 hr 30 min

The 2025 Motivational Interviewing Summit was a gathering of colleagues from around the world to explore the future of MI practice, and research. Sponsored by the Florida State University Center for Behavioral Health Integration, the MI…
How Much Expertise Do You Need To Be Helpful?

August 7, 2024 · 1 hr 29 min

In the episode of MIB, Steve and Joel are joined by Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Densie Ernst to explore how skillful do you need to be at MI to be hopeful. This conversation compliments up our last episode on "Harmology". We hope you…
Harmology: How Helping Can Cause Unintended Harm

April 25, 2024 · 1 hr 23 min

In this episode Joel, Steve and friends explore how attempting to help people can sometimes cause harm. Steve lays out four types of people that cause harm. We explore the potentially side of toxic empathy and sympathy. The importance of…
What would Carl Rogers think about MI?

December 2, 2023 · 1 hr 44 min

In this episode Steve, Joel and Ange are joined by our good friends Allan Zuckoff and Chris Wagner to explore MI and Person Centered Counselling. Where do these approaches converge and diverge. We did the best we could to explore what Carl…

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The Future of MI

October 27, 2023 · 1 hr 24 min

In this episode, Steve, Kendelle and Joel are live from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers annual Forum in Copenhagen, Denmark. The conversation was with both friends in audience and online. There was a lot of…
MI & AI: What is Happening and What Does the Future Hold?

July 4, 2023 · 1 hr 33 min

In this episode of MIB, Joel, Kendelle, Steve, Ange and some wonderful guests explore two questions: What exactly is Artificial Intelligence? and What is happening with AI and MI in regards to research, training and practice. As always we…
Motivational Interviewing, 4th Edition: What's in-store? What's changed?

May 31, 2023 · 1 hr 55 min

In this episode, Joel, Kendell, Ange, Molly Magill and the participants will have a conversation with Steve about what to expect to find in the upcoming 4th edition of the MI book. Bring your questions and ideas to share with Steve and…
updated - Psychedelic Assisted Therapy: Does MI Have a Place?

April 27, 2023 · 1 hr 33 min

In this episode, Joel, Steve and Ange take a long look at psychedelic assisted therapy (PAT) and how MI may or may not fit. We are joined by Joshua Bringle, PhD, Joji Suzuki, MD, Candida Mauer, PhD and Michael Fluop, MD who are all engaged…
Hope and MI: Is hope a verb? A noun? How does hope feel? What does it look like? How important is it?

April 4, 2023 · 1 hr 28 min

In this episode of MIB, Kendelle, Joel, Angela and guests explore the place of hope in helping people grow and make changes. We take a look at how hope fits with the spirit and practice of MI.
MI With More Than One Person: What Does That Look Like?

February 23, 2023 · 1 hr 52 min

In this episode we introduce Kendall Bond as part of the MIB team. We are joined by Karen Ingersoll, Tyrel Starks and Chris Wagner to explore how MI can be adapted to work with more than on person in groups counselling, couples therapy…
Motivational Interviewing in the Political Sphere: Is There a Case for It?

November 30, 2022 · 1 hr 28 min

In this episode, Steve, Joel, Kendelle Bond and friends from around the world explore if, where and how MI fits into the broader conversations about change. What can MI bring to the conversations outside of the therapy room, locker room…

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About the show

Joel Porter and Steve Rollnick host Motivational Interviewing & Beyond (MIB) a free monthly webinar. The MIB podcast it is the uncut and full webinar for easy listening. The conversations we facilitate are about all things and more related to Motivational Interviewing. Our aim to is ask more questions and stimulate thinking rather than provide answers and solutions The invited guests, spontaneous panelists and questions from the audience take the conversation into deep and unplanned directions.