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More or Less

by Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin

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Oct 26	#162	#158
Oct 25	#128	#122
Oct 24	#138	#133
Oct 19	#155	#148
Oct 18	#141	#133
Oct 17	#129	#119

Latest episodes

⁠The Real Reason Elon Wants SpaceX and Tesla to Merge Now

October 23, 2026 · 52 min

Elon tells investors on an earnings call that SpaceX and Tesla should merge, and Sam has a theory he says nobody else has floated: there's an enormous SpaceX lockup cliff coming in the spring, and folding Tesla's retail shareholders into…
The Death of the Web Is Inevitable

October 16, 2026 · 50 min

Jess went full send on Muse and reports that about 70% of the use cases she was excited about have stopped working, because the internet is fighting back: Good Eggs now wants her to check out in the app, her kid's school portal refuses the…
Agentic Commerce Hits a Wall: Hilton, Amazon and the Bot Blocking Fight

October 9, 2026 · 53 min

Meta and Microsoft, two of Anthropic's biggest enterprise customers, have roughly halved their Claude usage, and both are running their own models instead. Dave's diagnosis is the one nobody else is making: Claude was over-tuned for…
Meta Muse vs Instinct vs OpenAI Dots: Do AI Agents Have Any Moat?

October 2, 2026 · 57 min

Anthropic's S-1 leaked and the numbers are not what the narrative promised: revenue flatlining as token prices drop, and SaaS investors posting memes welcoming Anthropic to the no-growth table. Jess still puts it at 60% they get out in…
Claude Is Doing Science, a16z Is Starting a University & the AI Bubble Keeps Growing and Still Be a Terrible Business; We'd Rather Send Our Kids to the Military Than to a16z's School

September 25, 2026 · 59 min

Andreessen Horowitz puts $35 million into a new school and the pod nearly falls apart over it. Sam says he'd rather send his kids to the military, Jess is all for fixing higher ed but not with two venture capitalists writing the…

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Anthropic Wants to Slow AI Down & Instinct Wants a $10B Valuation. Is It Because They're Losing? Is Dario Amodei Actually Right?

September 18, 2026 · 57 min

Finally, a full house week where Sam is back from New York and the squad is back for a full dive into this week’s AI drama. Anthropic's Dario wrote a long essay calling for the AI race to slow down, weeks before a multi-trillion dollar…
iPhone Duo, Meta Muse & Why AI Finally Scared Dave Morin

September 11, 2026 · 51 min

Dave Morin goes hands-on with Apple's iPhone Duo, the crew tests Meta's new Muse agent and asks whether it can hold up once Google ships its own, and Dave explains why OpenAI's Astra is the first AI model in a long time that felt scary to…
AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried?

September 4, 2026 · 56 min

Sam has entered what Jessica calls the “recursive Sam loop,” producing children’s media in his own voice, letting agents deploy their own apps, and having bots track his health. But things take a turn when Claude refuses one of his…
Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm

August 28, 2026 · 55 min

Sam is recording poolside, Jess is embracing her agentic era, and somehow that’s the least chaotic part of this week’s episode. The squad digs into Meta’s $17 billion settlement over child safety and whether social media should basically…
Stripe Buys OpenRouter, OpenAI vs. Anthropic & the AI Backlash

August 21, 2026 · 56 min

Stripe buys OpenRouter for billions, which naturally raises the question: did Stripe just buy critical AI infrastructure, or a very expensive router with great distribution? The original squad is back to debate why $7B acquisitions somehow…
Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng

August 14, 2026 · 59 min

A very special edition of More or Less, featuring Josh Wolfe (Founder, Lux Capital), Rachel Holt (Founder, Construct Capital; former Head of North America at Uber), Scott Belsky (Partner, A24; Founder, Behance), Scott Stanford (Founder…
Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era

August 7, 2026 · 55 min

Sam records from the beach while dealing with a broken bilge pump. Dave calls in after herding cattle. Fortunately, tech continues without them, which Sam takes as further proof that AGI is already running the industry. The crew unpacks…

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About the show

Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures. Follow the crew: http://x.com/davemorin http://x.com/brit http://x.com/lessin http:/x.com/jessicalessin Follow the pod: https://moreorlesspod.com/ http://youtube.com/moreorlesspod https://x.com/moreorlesspod