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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

by The Overlap
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About the show

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Latest episodes

  • Arsène Wenger Part 2: Cannes, Nancy and Monaco; ‘Invisible Training’ and a Title

    October 6, 2026 · 53 min

    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their Arsène Wenger series by tracing his leap from youth coaching at Strasbourg to assistant work under Jean-Marc Guillet at Cannes, where his scouting and relentless workload stood out, before…

  • Arsene Wenger Part 1: Alsace Roots, Obsession & The First Break

    September 29, 2026 · 52 min

    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper begin a four-part series marking 30 years since Arsène Wenger’s arrival at Arsenal, framing him—alongside David Dein—as a key catalyst for the Premier League’s shift toward foreign managers, multicultural…

  • Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part Two

    September 22, 2026 · 57 min

    Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson examine Kwame Nkrumah’s state-backed club Real Republicans and why it became widely unpopular despite winning trophies, after being created by taking top players from existing clubs without compensation and…

  • Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part One

    September 15, 2026 · 50 min

    Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson discuss how Kwame Nkrumah used football to build Ghana’s national identity and promote Pan-African unity after independence (1957) and becoming a republic (1960). They trace Ghana’s colonial background as the…

  • Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Three

    September 8, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min

    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper conclude their three-part series on Kevin Keegan by tracing his managerial career and the idealism behind his “why not?” philosophy. They cover his post-playing retreat in Marbella, a 1991 roadside attack…

  • Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Two

    September 1, 2026 · 58 min

    Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their Kevin Keegan series, following his 1977 move from Liverpool to Hamburg for a far higher salary and the difficult start marked by teammate resentment, managerial upheaval, a humiliating Super…

  • Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part One

    August 25, 2026 · 60 min

    *The full three-part series is available on Patreon now* Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper pay tribute to Kevin Keegan, who died in July aged 75, reflecting on his rare charisma, self-awareness, and ability to connect with people, as well as…

  • Total Football: Glory, Fracture and the 1974 World Cup | Part Four

    August 18, 2026 · 52 min

    The fourth and final episode in Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper's Total Football series explores Ajax’s remarkable success under Stefan Kovacs and the Netherlands’ unforgettable 1974 World Cup campaign. Kovacs inherited Rinus Michels’…