INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane

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• Is Loving Nature Genetic? + How To Find A New Internet with Laura Wright (author and creator of The First Mess)

  October 1, 2026 · 49 min

  In this episode, we discuss the debate around biophilia / a love of nature – is it an innate attraction, is it in our genes, or are we just othering nature altogether? Then we move inside and talk about the death of the (fun) internet…

• How To Recover Like Nature + The Lore Of Beanie Babies with Timothy Pakron

  September 24, 2026 · 44 min

  In this episode, we discuss what happened when a scientist let an abandoned field rest (no seeding, no weeding, no special care). Lots of metaphors in this one! And then we move inside to discuss the craze of Beanie Babies, high-level…

• Using Underwear For Soil Health and Y2K Again or AI Apocalypse? with Aaron Becker (3x Emmy-nominated designer, director, and co-founder of Filmograph)

  September 17, 2026 · 45 min

  In this episode, we talk about how Dutch scientists used thousands of underwear to test soil (and the results!). Plus, we take a deep dive into the drama and controversy surrounding Anthropic and the discourse around the dangers of AI (and…

• Season Finale! Why Amsterdam Banned Meat + Fossil Fuel Ads and Diet Coke, Cigs, and Pop Culture News with Allyson Holleb (stylist and pop culture reporter)

  May 21, 2026 · 50 min

  In this episode, we talk about how Amsterdam has banned meat and fossil fuel-related ads and oak trees fighting off caterpillars in the most wild way. And then we move inside with an ethical moral question about a very big fashion party…

• How To Find Hope Through Nature + When Historical Fashion Meets GLP-1s with Lauren Lee (founder of Semaine)

  May 14, 2026 · 48 min

  In this episode, we discuss the hope that nature can bring to our lives, how it can promote social well-being, and the parallels of gardening and running a startup. Then we move inside to talk about historical fashion, how body standards…

• How Flowers Made Our World and Heated Social Media Debates with David George Haskell (author of The Forest Unseen)

  May 7, 2026 · 42 min

  In this episode, we discuss the significant role flowers have played in creating our world, the biological reason we're attracted to flowers, women in horticultural, and David's inside pick (which is sort of an outside one). About this…

• Gardens That Can Save The World and A Noodle Obsession with Lottie Delamain (RHS Chelsea award-winning garden designer)

  April 10, 2026 · 33 min

  In this episode, we start outside and talk about how gardens can be part of a revolution for positive change, the easiest way to start as a beginner, and the connection between gardens and habit stacking. Then we move inside to talk about…

• The Nature Faker Controversy and Peter Hujar's Day with Mason Currey (author of Daily Rituals + Making Art and Making A Living)

  April 2, 2026 · 45 min

  In this episode, we start outside and talk about the Nature Fakers controversy (and how Teddy Roosevelt was involved). Then we talk about Mason's new book and the struggle of making art while also making a living (day jobs, get rich…