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The future belongs to designers who build. First of Kind is the story of design and tech told by its pioneers. Hosted by Soleio. Coproduced by Room 3. Sponsored by Framer, Noon, Grok Bot, Ramp, Vercel, Granola and Profound. firstofkind.com