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Are AI benchmarks doomed?
May 1, 2026 · 1 hr 5 minAI benchmarks saturate quickly, struggle to capture what we care about, and cost more than ever to build. But are they doomed? Greg Burnham, who leads Epoch's benchmarking team, and Tom Adamczewski, who developed MirrorCode, push back on…
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AI math capabilities could be jagged for a long time – Daniel Litt
January 29, 2026 · 2 hr 11 minDaniel Litt is a professor of mathematics at the University of Toronto. He has been a careful observer of AI’s progress toward accelerating mathematical discovery, sometimes skeptical and sometimes enthusiastic. Topics we cover: the…
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The EU and the not-so-simple macroeconomics of AI - Luis Garicano
December 18, 2025 · 1 hr 25 minProfessor Luis Garicano isn’t your usual academic economist. Academically, his theories have heavily influenced how modern economists understand the structure of firms and the labor market. But his influence hasn’t been confined to the…
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What does economics actually tell us about AGI? – Phil Trammell
October 1, 2025 · 1 hr 49 minStanford economist Phil Trammell has been rigorously thinking about the intersection of economic theory and AI (incl. AGI) for over five years, long before the recent surge of interest in large language models. In this episode of Epoch…
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Forecasting AI progress until 2040
September 5, 2025 · 1 hr 39 minWhat will AI progress look like over the next 15 years? Informed by current trends, Epoch AI researchers Jaime Sevilla and Yafah Edelman argue that the default expectation should be wild. They discuss whether AI will solve the Riemann…
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Is it 3 Years, or 3 Decades Away? Disagreements on AGI Timelines
March 28, 2025 · 4 hr 3 minWhen might AI truly transform our world, and what will that transformation look like? Even within our own research team, timelines for AGI differ substantially. In this episode, the two Epoch AI researchers with the longest and the…
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AI in 2030, Scaling Bottlenecks, and Explosive Growth
January 16, 2025 · 2 hr 2 minIn our first episode of Epoch After Hours, Ege, Tamay and Jaime dig into what they expect AI to look like by 2030; why economists are underestimating the likelihood of explosive growth; the startling regularity in technological trends like…

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