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EP30 The Golden Age of macOS Malware: Evolution, Stealers, and AI Workflows with Christopher Lopez

October 14, 2026 · 59 min

In this episode of Behind the Binary, we sit down with Mac security researcher Christopher Lopez (L0psec). to discuss the evolving landscape of macOS malware. As Mac adoption continues to grow in enterprise environments and among…
EP29 Binary Similarity in the LLM Era with Jonas Wagner and Endre Bangerter of ThreatRay

September 16, 2026 · 57 min

"Throwing more LLM prompts at a packed binary won’t make your analysis faster. But combining code similarity with AI will." In Episode 29 of Behind the Binary, Jonas Wagner and Endre Bangerter of ThreatRay join the podcast to lay out the…
EP28 macOS Security Internals: Kernel Exploitation, PAC Defenses, and the Rise of macOS Infostealers with Olivia Gallucci

August 26, 2026 · 52 min

In this episode, we're joined by security researcher Olivia Gallucci to explore macOS low-level security, kernel exploitation, and macOS threat trends. We break down how macOS internals differ from Linux—focusing on IOKit, C++ dynamic…
EP27 The Challenges of Reversing Modern Languages: From C++ to Go and Rust with Jae Young Kim

July 15, 2026 · 56 min

When malware analysis first emerged, reverse engineers typically operated in a straightforward C landscape — standard Win32 APIs, no massive runtimes, and clear code paths. Today, the landscape has fundamentally shifted. The natural…
EP26 When AI Features Create Zero-Click Exploits: The Pixel 9 Chain with Seth Jenkins

June 3, 2026 · 59 min

Mobile security boundaries rely on isolating remote, untrusted inputs from highly privileged system components. However, when new automated features are introduced, the available attack surface can shift—sometimes exposing unexpected code…

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EP25 The Future of Debugging: A Paradigm Shift with Xusheng Li

May 6, 2026 · 57 min

"TTD is a paradigm shift in the way you interact with the target... Potentially, five years from now, when we talk about debugging, we will just by default go to TTD." In this episode, we are joined by Xusheng Li, a debugger architect and…
EP24 The Glupteba Takedown: What Happens When Botnet Operators Show Up in Court with Pierre-Marc Bureau

April 1, 2026 · 55 min

"I thought that we would never hear about these people after they were named. But what was a surprise is that they actually hired a lawyer in New York... and they were like, 'Yeah, we're going to be taking part in this trial." In this…
EP23 Immutable C2: How EtherHiding and Frontend Attacks are Weaponizing the Blockchain

March 4, 2026 · 41 min

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EP22 Jailbreaking, Prompt Injection, and the "Agentic" Flaw in MCP with Kevin Harris

February 4, 2026 · 57 min

"Skilled adversaries have a 100% success rate against all of the defenses that we know about." In this episode, Kevin Harris defends that claim. We move past the standard "AI Safety" talking points to distinguish between the two attack…
EP21 From HITB Origins to Agentic AI: Web3, Music & The Future of Hacking with Dhillon Kannabhiran

January 14, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min

In this episode, Dhillon Kannabhiran shares the gritty origin story of Hack in the Box (HITB), detailing how he dug a $20k financial hole to launch the first event in Malaysia before building it into a global brand. The conversation moves…
EP20 Windows Under the Hood: Kernel Design, EDRs, and the Shift to VBS with Pavel Yosifovich

December 10, 2025 · 1 hr 10 min

In this episode, we get a unique look at the history of Windows through the eyes of one of its leading experts, Pavel Yosifovich. We delve into his fascinating origin story, including the "fluke" that led him to become the author of the…
EP19 The Art of Deconstructing Problems: Tools, Tactics, and the ScatterBrain Obfuscator with Nino Isakovic

November 19, 2025 · 1 hr 53 min

In this episode, we’re joined by Nino Isakovic, a long-time low-level security expert, for a thought-provoking conversation that spans the foundational and the cutting-edge. Nino discusses the art of deconstructing problems—sharing…

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About the show

Welcome to Behind the Binary, the podcast that introduces you to the fascinating people, technology, and tools driving the world of reverse engineering. Join your host, Josh Stroschein, a reverse engineer with the FLARE team at Google, and someone passionate about sharing knowledge and shedding light on the art of reverse engineering, as he sits down with intriguing guests to explore the human side of this profession. Behind the Binary goes beyond the code, sharing the stories, motivations, and unique perspectives of the individuals who dedicate their lives to unraveling the complexities of technology. We'll hear about their journeys into the field, the challenges they face, and the impact their work has on securing our digital world. Whether you're a seasoned malware analyst, a software developer, a security researcher, or just someone curious about the world of reverse engineering, Behind the Binary offers insightful and engaging conversations for everyone interested in this fascinating field.