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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back
by Charlie Swenson, MD
Today: #195 in Government on our combined chart.
Today: #191 in Government, United Kingdom on our combined chart.
Today: #91 in Government, Canada on our combined chart.
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| Date | Combined Rank | Apple Podcasts | Castbox |
|---|---|---|---|
| Oct 27 | #195 | #198 | — |
| Oct 23 | #155 | #168 | #93 |
| Oct 22 | #94 | #93 | — |
| Oct 19 | #192 | #193 | — |
| Oct 18 | #125 | #126 | — |
| Oct 17 | #157 | #158 | — |
| Oct 16 | #143 | #144 | — |
Latest episodes
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World DBT Summit Coming – Episode 127
July 23, 2026 · 52 minCharlie interviews Michaela Swales and Alec Miller, the co-hosts of the DBT World Summit that takes place October 28-30. Learn all that you need to know about this amazing first-ever global event. View video version of this…
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Synchronized Swimming – Episode 126
April 9, 2026 · 28 minIn this podcast Charlie recalls a piece of biological research he did 57 years ago, at college. He pursued the question: how is it that the 2 billion cells of the human heart, each of which has on its own the capacity to contract, beat in…
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Dialectics, Democracy, Tyranny, Trump, and the American Way – Episode 125
January 26, 2026 · 48 minIn the wake of the recent killing by federal agents of two adults in Minneapolis, this podcast represents an attempt to deepen my perspective on these events, on Donald Trump, and on the forces in our country that have supported him. I…
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Does DBT Work as a Model for Understanding and Addressing a Fascist Takeover? – Episode 124
September 23, 2025 · 47 minDBT’s emphasis on behavioral specificity, validation, and dialectical thinking, while effective for therapy, must be sufficiently grounded in deep moral convictions and motivational forces if it is to be used to address a fascist takeover…
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Bystanders Get Off the Sidelines Please – Episode 123
August 15, 2025 · 46 minIn this podcast Charlie reviews the six categories of people in the United States insofar as they are actors in the drama between democracy and authoritarianism, highlighting where it might be possible to change the momentum. He then…
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Nuggets of Gold in Piles of Sand – Episode 122
August 12, 2025 · 36 minIn this podcast, Charlie reflects on a recent consultation as a window into the way in which memory is tethered to certain moments, as an example of Linehan’s metaphor for validation as finding a nugget of gold in a pile of sand, and as a…
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Amputation of Morality: What to Do About It? – Episode 121
July 3, 2025 · 1 hr 1 minThe perspective within this podcast is that our current political process is seriously dysfunctional, having been taken over by decision-makers who seem disconnected from normal human morality. After noticing the resemblance of that…
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Getting Out of Hell and Into Reality – Episode 120
June 16, 2025 · 40 minThis podcast focuses on the fact that we spend most of our lives living in the stories we tell ourselves about reality, but not in reality itself. Hear how DBT helps us to find our way back to reality, and how doing so increases the…
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What the f**k? Dialectics and Improvisation in Therapy and Everyday Life – Episode 119
May 29, 2025 · 48 minIn this podcast, I explore what is meant by dialectics in general, dialectics in the practice of DBT, and especially what it takes to “do dialectics-in-action.” It’s way more common and profound than simply applying dialectical strategies…
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Wise Mind, Polarization, Dialectics, and Stopping Fascism – Episode 118
May 19, 2025 · 46 minIn this podcast, the third in a series, I clarify the place of dialectics in DBT as an antidote to polarization. Using some case examples, I detail how one might use dialectics. Then I bring the same lessons into finding a way to deal with…
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Learning to Say No Effectively to Fascism – Episode 117
May 1, 2025To say NO to the forces and practices of fascism in the U.S., effectively enough to stop it, can be frightening. We will borrow from the DBT skills training model, explaining ways to acquire, strengthen, and generalize the skill of saying…
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When Hell is an Attack on Democracy – Episode 116
April 20, 2025 · 57 minIn this podcast, Charlie draws from DBT in search of ways to understand the current assault on democracy in the United States, and to become more effective at taking care of oneself and acting more effectively. View video…
About the show
This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between different varieties of hell in life, and different tools for coping. The tools will be drawn from dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), from other treatments, and from other life experiences.