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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back

by Charlie Swenson, MD

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About the show

This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between different varieties of hell in life, and different tools for coping. The tools will be drawn from dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), from other treatments, and from other life experiences.

Latest episodes

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  • Does DBT Work as a Model for Understanding and Addressing a Fascist Takeover? – Episode 124

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  • Bystanders Get Off the Sidelines Please – Episode 123

    August 15, 2025 · 46 min

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  • Nuggets of Gold in Piles of Sand – Episode 122

    August 12, 2025 · 36 min

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  • Amputation of Morality: What to Do About It? – Episode 121

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  • Getting Out of Hell and Into Reality – Episode 120

    June 16, 2025 · 40 min

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