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Marian Goodell on Leading Burning Man and Why Collaboration and Consensus Are Not the Same Thing
August 18, 2026 · 47 minIn 1995, a project manager at a San Francisco software company drove twelve miles into a Nevada dry lakebed because a man in a bed sheet holding a plastic flamingo told her to. She never went back. That woman was Marian Goodell. Nearly…
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Ann Mukherjee on Crashing the Super Bowl, Embracing Your Weaknesses, and Why the CEO of Today Has to Be All Learning
July 21, 2026 · 47 minWhen Ann Mukherjee joined Doritos in 2006, the brand was in freefall. It had gotten so bad that Frito-Lay's own truck drivers refused to stock it. She turned it around by crashing the Super Bowl with a $5 million budget—against…
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Janet Foutty on Knowing When to Leave, Separating Who You Are From What You Do, and the Beginner's Mindset
June 23, 2026 · 31 minFor 33 years, Janet Foutty helped the world's largest companies reinvent themselves. Then she had to do it herself. When she stepped down as Executive Chair of Deloitte US, she didn't walk into a plan. She walked into a blank page she…
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Sarah Personette on Leading with Balance, Reframing Imposter Syndrome, and Building Media's Future
June 9, 2026 · 41 minAt seven years old, Sarah Personette told a stranger she wanted to be a CEO. She spent the next three decades making it happen. Days after Elon Musk closed his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter, she resigned — walking away from a role…
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Jim McCann on His First Flower Shop, 1-800-Flowers, and Firing Himself
May 26, 2026 · 44 minEverything changes - except your brand and your story. Fifty years after buying his first flower shop, Jim McCann did something almost no founder does voluntarily: he fired himself. In this episode of Unbossing, hosts Rishad Tobaccowala…
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David Kenny on Leading Through Uncertainty, Managing vs. Governance, and Why Curiosity Beats Expertise
May 12, 2026 · 32 minWhat do you hold onto when almost everything is changing? David Kenny — co-founder of Digitas, former CEO of Nielsen, and one of the most sought-after board members in tech and media — has a simple answer: find your true north and don't…
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Jim Lesser on Craft, Taste and Going From Fun Uncle to the Responsible Parent
April 28, 2026 · 45 minJim Lesser started his career as a receptionist at a New York ad agency. His last role in that same industry was CEO of BBDO San Francisco — one of the few creative directors in advertising to ever make that leap. Now, as Chief Brand…
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Tariq Hassan on Fear, Failure, and Brand Role in Culture
April 14, 2026 · 45 minWhat if the fear of failure is the biggest thing standing between your team and greatness? Tariq Hassan — former CMO and Chief Customer Experience Officer of McDonald's and former CMO of Petco — has spent his career contemplating this…