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  • Israel Votes. What Changes?

    October 22, 2026 · 1 hr 15 min

    Israelis are preparing to vote in their first election since the October 7 terrorist attacks. Barak Ravid, global affairs correspondent for Axios, joins Jake and Jon to discuss the stakes of the election. Will Benjamin Netanyahu be…

  • A Diesel Deal With Russia, a Dilemma for NATO, Houthis Escalate Saudi Arabia Attacks

    October 15, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min

    President Trump has struck a diesel deal with Russia as fuel prices squeeze Americans. But what does easing restrictions on Russian exports mean for Ukraine and for efforts to end the war? Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer examine the deal’s…

  • How China Changed the Oil Market—and the Iran War

    October 12, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min

    Javier Blas, Bloomberg Opinion’s energy and commodities columnist, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to explain why the Iran war has produced an oil market few expected: crude prices hovering around $100 a barrel while tankers are braving…

  • Anne Applebaum on the Grifters and Ideologues Reshaping US Foreign Policy

    October 1, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min

    Anne Applebaum, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss how far-right ideology and private profit have become intertwined in the Trump administration’s approach to the…

  • The U.S.–China Relationship Is Moving in Two Directions

    September 24, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min

    PHOTO CREDIT China experts Jessica Chen Weiss, David M. Lampton Professor of China Studies at Johns Hopkins SAIS, and Julian Gewirtz, fellow at Harvard’s Belfer Center and senior research scholar at Columbia University, join Jake…

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  • U.S. Intelligence Under Assault and the High-Stakes AI Race With China

    September 17, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min

    Julia Curlee, a former CIA analyst and acting senior director at the National Security Council, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to explain why she believes America’s intelligence system is being weakened from within. Curlee also…

  • 25 Years After 9/11: Admiral McRaven’s Warning for America

    September 10, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min

    25 Years After 9/11: Admiral McRaven’s Warning for America Retired Admiral William H. McRaven, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command and Joint Special Operations Command, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer as the country…

  • Iran’s “Economic D-Day” and the US-Canada Rupture

    August 27, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min

    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says the U.S. is entering “the endgame” with Iran, launching what he calls an “economic D-Day.” Closer to home, U.S.-Canada trade talks have collapsed after Prime Minister Mark Carney rejected Washington’s…

  • Corruption in a Shameless Age (with Patrick Radden Keefe)

    August 6, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min

    Acclaimed investigative journalist and New Yorker staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss his new book, London Falling.  They discuss London’s dirty-money economy, “Say Nothing” and the unfinished…

  • Can Europe Defend Itself Without America? Radek Sikorski on NATO & Ukraine

    July 30, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min

    Polish Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Radosław “Radek” Sikorski joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to assess Europe’s security at a moment of growing strain in the transatlantic alliance. They discuss whether Europe can deter…

  • Why Zelensky Fired His War Chiefs & Where Trump's Iran War Goes Next

    July 23, 2026 · 54 min

    Zelensky just fired his defense minister, his top general, and his prime minister in a single reshuffle — and thousands of Ukrainians poured into the streets. Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer unpack what's really driving it: a generational war…

  • Trump’s Election Playbook, Explained by Jocelyn Benson

    July 15, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min

    Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss the security of the 2026 midterm elections — just a day before President Trump’s primetime Thursday address, expected to focus in part on “election…

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About the show

The Long Game is a weekly national security podcast hosted by Jake Sullivan, President Biden’s National Security Advisor, and Jon Finer, his Principal Deputy—senior aides who sat in on the classified Presidential Daily Brief each morning and translated raw intelligence into policy advice. Each week, Jake and Jon will pull back the curtain on how power really works helping you make sense of the national security stories unfolding today. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.