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"The Cognitive Revolution"

by Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz

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Latest daily rankings: Oct 21. New rankings will appear after the next update.

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Date	Combined Rank	Apple Podcasts	Castbox
Oct 21	#162	#162	—
Oct 20	#95	#99	#79
Oct 19	#103	#104	#93
Oct 18	#180	#180	—
Oct 17	#152	#152	—
Oct 16	#93	#96	#77

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About the show

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co