Dancing with Systems podcast artwork
Business

Dancing with Systems

by Wayne Visser & Sally Uren

Chart positions today · United States

Not on the United States charts we track today.

If you like Dancing with Systems, try…

Latest episodes

  • S1.E4: Making Nature an Investable Asset: The Finance System Transition

    September 29, 2026 · 40 min

    How finance underpins all sector transitions—and how we fix the flow The finance system underpins almost every major transition underway, acting both as a root cause of past systemic failures and as the ultimate lever for future solutions…

  • S1.E3: Redesigning the Food System From the Soil Up

    September 1, 2026 · 50 min

    The food system is full of big numbers — and even bigger tensions. In this episode, Wayne and Sally dive deep into one of our most culturally embedded and vital global systems. From soil health and water usage to biodiversity and the power…

  • S1.E2: How Technology Is Shaping Every Global System Transition

    August 5, 2026 · 43 min

    AI and clean tech are converging to influence the pace and nature of key systems transition. AI is the great accelerator — but accelerating in the wrong direction is still the wrong direction. In this episode, Wayne and Sally explore the…

  • S1.E1: Why the Energy Transition May Already Be Unstoppable

    August 5, 2026 · 53 min

    Why the energy transition might already be unstoppable. The energy transition isn't coming — it's already here. In our first episode, Wayne and Sally unpack why the shift to renewables has passed the point of no return, who's leading the…

Full episode archive on Apple Podcasts →

About the show

Dancing with Systems (co-hosted by Dr Sally Uren and Prof. Dr Wayne Visser) aims to help change agents from across the spectrum - in business, government, academia, and civil society - better understand the complex set of dynamics at play in the extraordinary systems transitions currently underway.  This debut season will explore how six key systems - energy, food, finance, technology, nature and health - are evolving, examine where the key sticking points to transformation lie, and ask what actions will help unlock meaningful systems change.