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by Johnathan and April Perkins
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About the show

Biracial, millennial, brother-sister duo, Johnathan and April Perkins, take part in candid conversation about racism, white people, and what to do next.

Latest episodes

  • THEE Honorable JUSTICE Ketanji Brown Jackson

    July 2, 2022 · 23 min

    Johnathan & April celebrate nerd out and celebrate the occasion of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black Woman to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court.

  • Beware Performative Activism

    April 13, 2022 · 26 min

    Johnathan & April discuss a recent, nuanced example of performative activism and the very real risks these actions pose to Black, brown and Indigenous folks.

  • Don't Call Police, Just Stay Focused

    March 3, 2022 · 26 min

    Johnathan & April discuss the very real harm you calling police continues to inflict upon Black people.

  • We're Baaaaack! (Season 4)

    February 10, 2022 · 13 min

    Johnathan & April kick off their 4th season with announcements, updates, and an important challenge for listeners.

  • Family Matters (Season 3 Finale)

    June 1, 2021 · 51 min

    In the Season 3 Finale, April and Johnathan open up about racism within their own extended family and give insight on how best to handle these difficult realities.

  • The Trial of Derek Chauvin

    April 13, 2021 · 45 min

    Johnathan & April welcome their sister Jubilee to discuss the ongoing trial of Derek Chauvin and its implications on the Black community. The conversation gets very real.

  • True Crime

    March 9, 2021 · 42 min

    Johnathan & April spend the entire episode in an intense discussion of the true crime genre and its intersection with race and white supremacy.

  • Organizing in Biden-Harris' America with Ivette (JusticeLA) and Dahlia (WP4BL)

    February 2, 2021 · 1 hr 15 min

    Johnathan & April breathe a sigh of relief following the Biden-Harris inauguration, then explore antiracist organizing with founders of JusticeLA and White People 4 Black Lives, Ivette Alé and Dahlia Ferlito, respectively. Justice LA…